Spies In The Pm & Central Govt Offices

January 6th, 2009
  • Mole in PMO was bureaucrat: Jaswant

    PTI

    New Delhi, July 25: After his much-hyped promise to disclose the name of a US ‘mole’ in the Prime Minister’s Office, Mr Jaswant Singh did some verbal somersaults today confining himself to stating that the ‘mole’ was a “civil servant in a high position”.

    The information in his possession did not warrant any serious probe, the Bharatiya Janata Party leader told a press conference which turned out to be a damp squib.

    Yesterday, the leader of opposition in the Rajya Sabha had promised to reveal to the Prime Minister, Dr Manmohan Singh alone the name of the US mole in Narasimha Rao’s PMO in the 90s, about which he had made a reference in his just released memoirs ‘A Call to Honour’.

    Today, Mr Singh changed tack and said he will not even seek time from the Prime Minister whom he accused of “talking through media”.

    “If a particular civil servant served in a particular government in a high position to be privy to its nuclear programme and if he is alive, no longer in office or the country, I would be guilty of digging graves (by taking name),” he said.

    However, outside the venue, he told TV reporters, “I do not know whether he was a civil or uncivil servant but he was in the PMO.”

    Asked why he sat over the information on the ‘mole’ for a decade, the former external affairs minister said he felt no interests would be served by its disclosure and it would have appeared to be an act of “vendetta” at a time when the country was going through a period of uncertainty and repeated change of governments.

    “With the NDA government carrying out the needed nuclear tests and the central purpose of the government having been achieved, the disclosure would have appeared to be politics of vendetta,” Mr Jaswant Singh said.

    The purpose of referring to the ‘mole’ in his book, he said, was not to create any sensation but to point out that the US was fully in the know of India’s nuclear plans prior to Pokhran II, where it was caught unawares.

    Asked why he did not inform intelligence and police agencies about the document, the BJP leader said, “The contents of the letter did not warrant any such investigation, certainly not by the Delhi police.”

    He also declined to reveal the identity of the US diplomat or the Senator. “The import of the contents got nullified as the tests got conducted,” Mr Singh said.

    Stung by the Prime Minister’s challenge, Mr Singh said it would be difficult for him to “answer in the manner and language he chose” but was ready to go and give all documents in his possession to Dr Manmohan Singh if asked.

    “The Prime Minister has chosen to talk to me through the media. Permit me to talk to him through the media,” he said.

    Seeking to play down the espionage aspect, he said spying was the “second oldest profession”. The diplomatic presence in the capital would be curious to know what’s happening in the country, he said, “but we have to display maturity.”

    Denying suggestions that his ‘disclosures’ were aimed at selling his book, he said, “I seldom appear before media even otherwise. I am not engaged in any kind of self-aggrandisement.” He offered 30 per cent discount on his book to accredited journalists.

    “If a particular civil servant has served a particular government in a high enough office to be privy to details of the nuclear programme, then I am afraid, if that civil servant is no longer in operation and the government itself has changed, then I am really digging graves. What I have cited, a small portion of that entire document is to highlight that the US was fully in the knowledge of what India was doing,” he said.

    Meanwhile, sources close to Mr Jaswant Singh claimed that the BJP leader had in the morning itself sought an appointment with the Prime Minister to hand over the documents in his possession pertaining to the US mole in the PMO.

    However, there has not been any response from the PMO so far.

    The addendum to the news: [Well if not VS Arunachalam it is someone else but yes there are moles in almost all areas including political parties besides all services.

    Arunachalam not US mole: Jaswant

    New Delhi, July 26 (PTI) Former External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh today rebutted news reports that the US mole he had referred to in his book was scientist V S Arunachalam.


    "He (Jaswant Singh) has told me that he has not identified anybody by name as a US mole," BJP's deputy leader in the Lok Sabha Vijay Kumar Malhotra told PTI.

    Malhotra, who cited Singh's remarks at a news conference yesterday that the American mole he had referred to in his memoirs "A Call to Honour" was a civil servant, said Arunachalam did not hold that position as the Scientific Advisor to the then Defence Minister.

    "When I spoke to him (Singh), he rebutted this reference in media reports (about Arunachalam). He said he had not disclosed the identity of the mole to anybody in the party," Malhotra said.

    Singh, who is writing another book on the 1992 Ayodhya events, has denied suggestions the mention in "A Call to Honour" of a mole in the PMO during the Narasimha Rao government was a stunt to sell his memoirs.

    Both the former External Affairs Minister, who has been challenged by the Prime Minister to reveal the identity of the so-called mole, and the BJP have over the past two days tried to play down the significance of the much-hyped reference, insisting it did not warrant any serious probe. PTI


  • This is not the first time that we have been hearing about spy's having acess to the most confidential news. The fact is that spying is a commom phenomenon. Every country does it in one way or the other. It has been happening from ages. What we have to carefully look is that at what levels is this spying being done and upgrade our anti-spy mechanism likewise.

    In September 2005, the Mitrokhin Archives gave an account of a former KGB operative Vasili Mitrokhin about the organisation's activities in India. It claimed several leading politicians of India were on the payrolls of the KGB during the cold war years.

    Comparing the present Jaswant Singh issue with the KGB one, Which one is a more serious issue? What action has been taken against those named in those Mitrokhin Archives? Sadly the matter is nothing but stale news now.


  • Welcome Resident Screamer

    The point to consider is :

    A. At the time of Indira Gandhi, 99% of top offices were sold out to USSR. Moscow sent buckets of real hard cash to not only Mrs. Gandhi but all her top confidants including some of the current guys holding the top posts. Some of these sleazy sychophants may now be on the rolls of other foreign agencies.

    B. The US agencies sure have deep interest in every single country and they do maintain large scale monitoring and hire at all levels.

    C. Question is not who the mole was during Rao administration but how many moles we currently have.

    D. Frankly in the open democracy that we conduct are there any secrets anyway?

    Now my point is that India needs to make rules on its highly confidential activity and anyone found to be breaking the rules must be executed without any pardons.

    In any considerably dignified nation, the spies are punished to the maximum. Washington DC has taken very seriously all its double agents or moles and in most cases they are not forgiven under any circumstances, specially those double crossing.

    At this point Pakistan has serious interest in Indian security system and although Pakistan is a client state of China it is somehow a 'protected' client of the U.S. for its own personal interest.

    Pakistanis are trying all out to get into the system and to sabotage, destruct and bring about havoc in nation. The US interests are more economic yet politically their real mission is to keep a tab on Nukes.

    With all this one thing I can make clear is that fortunately a very small number of Indians will sell their motherland. But even one hole in a large ship can make it sink.

    Frankly our system has flaws not only on intelligence level but also on plain security of top offices. Even yesterday 3 people drove a car to the PM's residence and they could have explosives. Of course the sheepish Congress leaders will continue to be in their wonderland.


  • I don't understand Jaswant Singh's motives behind leaking this secret almost a decade after the event.[/b]

    Resident Screamer: Are you suggesting that this can be simply a case of attracting publicity for his book and even some small attempt to question Indo-US deal?


  • Resident Screamer: Are you suggesting that this can be simply a case of attracting publicity for his book and even some small attempt to question Indo-US deal?[/b]


    Avoice: Well, I am not sure and I doubt if anyone other than Mr. Singh can answer this question correctly. However, if some cheap publicity for his book was all that he wanted, I am sure, he could have easily raked up a thousand different issues. Therefore I am more inclined towards your later option. I believe it was his way of letting people know that the US cannot really be trusted on the nuclear deal.

    I mean, he says that the purpose of referring to the mole in his book was not to create any sensation but to point out that the US was fully aware of India’s nuclear plans prior to Pokhran II, when it claimed it was caught unawares.

    But the timing and the manner of disclosure really sucks. Now, as I said in my earlier post, it will be the BJP which will be facing the flak from the treasury benches whereas it really should have been the UPA which should have been on the defensive what with the price rise, terror attacks, the Mumbai deluge, farmers suicides and the stalling of disinvestments by the PM. And hence the need to question his motives.

    I personally would like to believe that his intention might have been to show the US as a two faced liar while at the same time score a political point over the Congress. But the plan seems to have backfired.


  • Welcome Resident Screamer

    The point to consider is :

    A. At the time of Indira Gandhi, 99% of top offices were sold out to USSR. Moscow sent buckets of real hard cash to not only Mrs. Gandhi but all her top confidants including some of the current guys holding the top posts. Some of these sleazy sychophants may now be on the rolls of other foreign agencies.

    B. The US agencies sure have deep interest in every single country and they do maintain large scale monitoring and hire at all levels.

    C. Question is not who the mole was during Rao administration but how many moles we currently have.

    D. Frankly in the open democracy that we conduct are there any secrets anyway?

    Now my point is that India needs to make rules on its highly confidential activity and anyone found to be breaking the rules must be executed without any pardons.

    In any considerably dignified nation, the spies are punished to the maximum. Washington DC has taken very seriously all its double agents or moles and in most cases they are not forgiven under any circumstances, specially those double crossing.

    At this point Pakistan has serious interest in Indian security system and although Pakistan is a client state of China it is somehow a 'protected' client of the U.S. for its onw personal interest.

    Pakistanis are trying all out to get into the system and to sabotage, destruct and bring about havoc in nation. The US interests are more economic yet politically their real mission is to keep a tab on Nukes.

    With all this one thing I can make clear is that fortunately a very small number of Indians will sell their motherland. But even one hole in a large ship can make it sink.

    Frankly our system has flaws not only on intelligence level but also on plain security of top offices. Even yesterday 3 people drove a car to the PM's residence and they could have explosives. Of course the sheepish Congress leaders will continue to be in their wonderland.[/b]


    I agree,Hindustan. The problem is nationalism has become a cuss word in today's political scenario and without it, without a sense of national pride, our people are always going to be victims of allurements offered by our enemies.


  • I don't understand Jaswant Singh's motives behind leaking this secret almost a decade after the event.

    All he has managed to do is put the BJP on the backfoot. A lot of uncomfortable questions are now going to be asked. He says that since the purpose was achieved with the nuclear tests, there was no need for any further investigations. Did Mr. Singh know for sure that it was the only secret leaked? I mean, if someone in the PMO could leak nuclear secrets surely he would not hesitate to leak other confidential notes. And if this mole could sell secrets to the Americans what prevents him from selling them to the pakistanis or the chinese? Does Mr. Singh guarantee that. If not, then why were no investigations conducted?

    I am an ardent supporter of the BJP but of late, I am begining to believe that the party suffers from the foot in the mouth disease.


  • "SECULARISM SUCKS"


  • Resident you are absolutely right!

    The problem is true nationalism cos the fake secularism is bulldozing our real identity.


  • http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1753703,0008.htm

    After Mr. Jaswant Singh’s claim of a mole in the PMO, a senior Intelligence Officer Mr. Keki Daruwalla has made a similar accusation. Even if the PMO decides to brush aside Mr. Singh’s statement as political one-upmanship, surely the suspicions of a senior bureaucrat merit serious consideration. The PM had no qualms about challenging Mr. Singh’s decency but why has he not ordered an investigation? Does he not wish to know who leaked the country’s nuclear secrets or does he already know?

    Is the PM trying to save his party’s skin? Does the country’s top sycophant know more than he is letting us on? Whose decency is he trying to save? Don’t you think Manmohan owes the country an explanation?

    P.S. why do you guys think that the media has suddenly gone soft on this issue? The matter was relegated from the first page to the fifth and now it has disappeared altogether. Do you feel that it is under pressure from the PMO to drop the whole thing? Do you think that the media would have let Mr. Vajpayee off the hook so easily?







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